I have no idea how people can defend LP or SW with a straight face. Or how anyone links to a Loro Parque document expecting to be taken seriously.
Whale develops extensive lesions.
Strange skin colors.
‘diatoms, like Arctic orcas.’
‘accident/don’t know/orcas fight all the time in the wild (links to a paper about the Southern Residents. Which explicitly says the opposite.)’
Tooth issues, extensively documented.
‘it happens all the time in the wild (/ignores all details of this phenomenon)’
Pictures of Morgan’s tooth fractured.
‘no broken teeth.’
‘FAKE NEWS, ULTRA WHARRGARBL, PETA’
Okay. Sure. Great.
Fun thing I was also told at Seaworld: educator mentioned 5% Norwegian and 35% NZ orcas with collapsed (!) fins, then led into “only 8% of humans worldwide have blue eyes, so more dorsal fins are bent than people have blue eyes!”
Yes. Because that is how math works.
Don’t expect me to take you seriously if you defend this kind of misleading trash. You can’t claim to champion education if you do.
I really don’t know where to start in talking about SW. I largely went on an information-gathering mission to provide both comparisons/contrasts to similar local attractions (San Diego Zoo and Birch Aquarium) and just to see what Seaworld actually presents to its guests; I took pictures and video to support these observations.
I was heavily focused on what was presented regarding the orcas. I participated in every available activity to avoid claims that abc information was actually presented in xyz activity I didn’t do. I watched 6 instances of “Orca Encounter”, went on the “Killer Whales Up Close” tour, and did the “Dine With” thing.
The latter two I filmed in their entirety. I recorded the audio from several of the Orca shows (it didn’t really vary). I took pictures of every educational tidbit available. As mentioned in the other post, there was only a single mention of the Southern Residents. Anywhere.
Orca conservation messaging is basically nonexistent. Here’s a view of where the UWV, dining area, its associated pool, and the signage all resides:
If you’re down there, it looks like this:
There’s 3 double-sided signs with general (and..a little questionable) killer whale information.
Nothing about the southern residents. To the left side of the UWV is a small screen playing slow-motion clips of wild whales, with occasional information mirrored from the surrounding items.
What is scattered everywhere: ParkToPlanet, X# of rescues for Y# of years, and Seaworld Cares messaging. I was expecting some stripe of this… but literally every recycling bin had ‘Seaworld Cares’ on it. They also prominently displayed their ‘accreditations’ near the orca and beluga exhibits.
Seaworld VERY aggressively markets its beluga and dolphin encounters. The signs are large (here’s an egregious example) and common in the associated areas. Educational signage about dolphins was largely about training/interactions; I didn’t see any educational signage at all for the belugas except a list of their names and short bios.
There was more educational signage/conservation messaging for the sea otters (which I never saw out?) than for any of the cetaceans.
The cetacean tanks all look substantially smaller in person than in pictures. I was able to figure out “Keet’s Corner” fairly quickly because … well, Keet was in it. The trainers describe him as “lazy.”
The dolphin show was devoid of information. This was the only sign near it. Do the pilot whales ever get to come out of that one tiny tank? I never saw them anywhere else, and they weren’t in the show.
I’m not really a theme park person (read: I don’t like thrill rides. So no, I didn’t go on any of them.) This was definitively a theme park; I’m not just saying that Because Seaworld, I’m saying that because the nonstop decor and earsplitting din doesn’t let you take much else away from it. Even on a quieter day, the rumble of rides and their accompanying screams could be heard from many places. The park also has either really loud pop music or big, sweeping orchestral music playing almost everywhere.
My opinion of the place came out of my experiences as substantially worse, not better or even unchanged. I felt I was being as open and observational as possible. If anyone wants to see more imagery or discuss any point in further detail I’d be happy to. I sort of want to show people all atypical angles of the thing so you can get a good idea of what’s going on without having to go there.
I’ll save my marketing observations for later/a different post(s), but yhea.
He was one of the very few transient orca captured for marine parks, transient orcas diet mainly consists of other marine mammals and they spend 90% of their day foraging for such meals. So they were not ideal candidates for parks. Previous transient captures (Chimo/Scarjaw) spent many days unfed due to the confusing change in offered food.
Kanduke was captured on August 16th 1975 along with his pod mate Nootka 3 – His mother Innis (T7) is still alive. The above article mentions six whales caught but only 4 captured- i cannot find any further mention of the other 2 orca.
He spent time in marineland’s back pool (Where Junior died) before performing there which he did until 1987 when he was bought by Sea World – where he fathered 2 calves, whom later gave him 3 grandchildren.
Kanduke was described as very moody- so he did not often perform, spending his days in the back pools. It is not known if he ever met his own daughters as staff were worried he did not know his own strength because of how big and bulky he was.
Kanduke died September 20th 1990 of a disease that is non-exsistant in the wild orca population as it is caused by a mosquito bite. (St. Louis encephalitis) The captive orca behaviour of ‘logging’ puts orca’s at risk for this disease.
btw when zoo folks are upset because of Seaworld Business Things it’s like…
dudes. why. do you think. people have a problem with Seaworld?
The business things don’t live off in their own separate land. They are very much a part of the company and also direct what it ultimately does. It doesn’t matter who’s running it or why or for how many jellybeans. The issues live almost entirely in the intersection between “it actually being a theme park business” and “it parading around as a zoo/aquarium.” Do not ignore that. Do not congratulate
If a zoo started spending huge chunks of money on rides, Sesame Street, and flashy, substanceless commercials (instead of its animals) I’d be mad at it too.
Probably the worst part is how the SRKW are dying off as we speak, and Seaworld (as the amazing conservation and research center that it is) has done almost nothing in the scheme of 1) the money they make, 2) the audience they have and could influence/educate, and 3) how little time the SRKW have until the population is too small/inbred to feasibly save
I’d still be angry at their use of funds even if the SRKW were stable, because they could be an amazing and influential center for the betterment of so many animals, including other endangered species/populations!! But they aren’t. Honestly I’m /so angry/ over it because I’m /so sad/ at the wasted potential, and how Seaworld praises itself while the animals they built their success on are wasting away while small organizations and people with limited resources struggle to make any difference
Holiday giant Thomas Cook is to axe all trips to theme parks where killer whales are kept captive – including top attractions SeaWorld and Loro Parque. Britain’s biggest tour operator made the decision following customer feedback and animal welfare evidence. SeaWorld in Florida and Loro Parque in Tenerife attract huge numbers of UK tourists. Thomas Cook sells over 10,000 day trips a year to SeaWorld and has sold 40,000 tickets to Loro Parque this year.
However, both venues have been slammed by animal welfare campaigners and a host of celebrities. Thomas Cook will stop offering tickets to either park or including them in its holidays from next summer. Thomas Cook chief Peter Fankhauser said: “We have engaged with a range of animal welfare specialists and taken account of the scientific evidence they have provided.
“We have also taken feedback from our customers, more than 90 per cent of whom said it was important their holiday company takes animal welfare seriously. That led us to the decision.”